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“Finish the Fight” “The End Begins” = $$

After playing games like Halo 2 and God of War 2 I’ve come to the conclusion these games were solely created to piss me off.

Now we all know how middle chapters of movies go. Much like “The Empire Strikes Back”,”The Matrix Reloaded”, “Pirates of the Caribbean 2″, “The Two Towers” and countless other trilogys the middle chapter likes to not provide a clear resolution to the story so you have to go see the third and find out how everything ends thus the movie studios suck you out of another $10 bucks. With movies I find this much more acceptable. Cliffhangers and continuations in movies don’t bother me that much. You spend two hours with a movie you spend a few bucks and then it’s over. The investment is minimal….

The videogame industry appears to be gravitating towards that model and it totally sucks. Few game series do it well (Metal Gear Solid is a prime example) where some it’s so amazingly frustrating it negates the fun you have playing the current title.

The original Halo and God of War games got it right. SELF CONTAINED ORIGINAL STORIES WITH CLEAR RESOLUTIONS. Their sequels sadly were created with further titles in mind. Thus we get stupid taglines like “Finish the Fight” and “The End Begins”.

See the thing is this. Videogames are a MUCH larger investment then going to the movies. You spend hundreds of dollars to have the equipment and if you are a fan you spend $50 bucks out the gate to buy the game the first week it comes out. Also to reach the end you can sometimes spend 10 times the length of your average movie playing though the campaign.

After your investment a conclusion should be your reward not the promise of more. Halo 2 and God of War 2 pretty much spit at your investment and to me say…

Thank you viewing “The End Begins”! Now to see the conclusion you will need to spend another $700 dollars to “Finish the Fight”!

Halo 3 will be released on the Xbox 360.  God of War 3 more then likely will be released on the PS3.  Big bucks….

It is genuinely frustrating finishing these games. As a gamer I feel I deserve a little more then this. Maybe that is why I hold a soft spot for games developed by Nintendo. Maybe it’s a trust where I know I will get a full complete game. Metroid Prime is a great example. You finish the games. You complete your objective. You get a clear cut ending. There maybe a little something at the end to bring you back but nothing like the ending to God of War 2.

The shame is GoW2 was an amazing game. For a PS2 title the graphics were great. The first 80% of the game was an epic experience and is a title geared towards adults. Seeing my non-gamer significant other engaged with the first level was a great feeling. The release couldn’t have came at a better time after the popularity of “300″. Penny Arcade has a great comic on the game and is totally true. The second disk was a great bonus I wish every game came with something similar. The first level of the game has more “WOW” moments then most games could ever wish to have.

I say these things out of love. Video games are the one thing from my childhood that is going to stick with me till “The End Begins”. With every game I buy I crave to “Finish the Fight” but please let me finish the fight $50 dollars at at time.

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22 Responses

  1. hellokittn says:

    You are vanlandw :-*

  2. bergs says:

    I really have to say I totally agree with vanlandw here. Part of me wants to look at it from an industry standpoint: development costs are through the roof, so once something becomes successful, it’s a guaranteed way to recoup all those expenditures. With a series like God of War, Sony and the developer know that they have a brand that will sell millions of copies. Leaving the second game totally incomplete at the end cements that it will be a success on the Playstation 3, and will even convince many folks to buy the system who were likely not going to do so in the first place.

    I guess I wouldn’t mind so much if the games were longer than a ridiculous 10-12 hours hours. I finished both Halo 2 and GoW in three sittings…with absolutely no reason to go back and play through again. They’re both great games, but come on, you don’t have to leave a cliffhanger that won’t see a conclusion for four years.

  3. vanlandw says:

    Good point vanbergs. I 100% understand the industry is about making money. Franchises make money. Building franchises is tough.

    Don’t get me wrong I love both games. Both games have epic moments and I would play both games again (I’ve beaten halo 2 at least three times) and I’m starting to enjoy the American style of game development more and more.

    The anticipation of waiting for these games to come out and the willingness to spend so much money to play them are strong feelings. Sadly whenever I talk about Halo 2 or GoW 2 the endings are what I’m going to talk about.

    Nobody beats Twilight Princess and says “The ending was stupid they are cliff hanger’ing to sell you the next game.” Neither with Metal Gear Soild games. They do gel together for a whole series but you can just play one and get a full story…with a little taste for the next one MGS endings are the best.

  4. vanberge says:

    I am torn on this topic. I do not fully agree with vanlandw/vanbergs.

    Halo 2′s ending was horrible, agreed. HOWEVER, that means that there will be a Conclusive and all powerful Halo 3. And it will undoubtedly be the best game of all time. If Halo 2 were to end, conclusively or even partially; you end up with a Halo 3 that is ‘off kilter’ from the essense of the game.

    A completely separate Halo game with a different story/objective loses its “Epic-ness” to some degree. Although the ending is not ideal in Halo 2, it sets the stage for possibly the best ending of any story/movie/videogame ever.

    The mid-point of any trilogy is the necessary ‘low point’ in the trilogy; which is arguable the perfect length for an epic story to take place

  5. payner says:

    Vanberge may I remind you that no videogame ending has ever come close to nor will ever come close to the ending of Mafia. That WAS the greatest ending of all time for any movie, videogame, or life.

    With that said I must agree with vanbergs and vanlandw. If I spend $50 and invest some time into a game, I want some sort of blown load satisfaction. By giving me an ending that leads into another game, I feel cheated by the company. Look back on the historically great videogame franchises/ series, all of the games pretty much have a definate ending and closure to the story. It just feels like you are nothing but an endless line of credit on which the videogame industry draws upon $50 at a time when even they thow some shit at the wall hoping it sticks.

  6. vanlandw says:

    I again agree with both vanberge and payner.

    Yes I’m sure Halo 3 is going to be amazing. I’m also sure to some degree there has to be “closure” but with videogames there is NO way Halo 3 is the last one. In the three year wait for Halo 3 the ending does still leaves a bad taste. But you have to agree you didn’t pay $60 dollars for Halo 2 to setup another purchase.

    Maybe it’s just the way I look at videogames but it doesn’t take anything away that Halo 3 should kick some serious ass. I love talking videogames

    Payner also makes good points. Mafia IMHO doesn’t have the BEST videogame ending but it has the type of ending I like. It ends, it tells the story, and in the end your banged regardless.

    Yes the GoW2 ending totally feels at times like you got the handjob but not the full “BJ”. lol wow that was really crass oh well it’s my website.

  7. Jeff says:

    I would first like to make the observation that Two Towers was not setup without an ending in order to sell tickets to the third movie. The Lord of the Rings is one story, not three. Therefore, the first two books/movies do not have endings. That is just the way it is.

    I do agree that having video games not end was probably the more ignorant idea that ever came from the gaming industry. If you make good games people are going to buy the sequels. There is no way I would shell out $60 for another game in a franchise if the predecessor sucked.

    Having said that, I will buy a 360 for Halo 3 when it comes out. This is not because Halo 3 is enough to drive that purchase, but because it was the straw that broke the camels back. I will NOT buy a PS3 when GoW3 comes out. GoW is the ONLY thing Sony has going for it, and that is not enough to justify a $700 price tag.

  8. vanlandw says:

    Everybody is making great points. You are right about LOTR I should omit that from my post.

    It’s not that either of these games are “bad” but the endings are similar and I really just wanted to make a small point that ended up into a larger one. I really do want to play pt. 3 of these games and if their predecessors were bad games this post wouldn’t have existed.

    I highly doubt I will ever buy a XB360. The impending “Elite” system with HDMI (should have been included in the orginal release BS) and a 120gb hd (what to fill it with expensive premium content from live on a locked down system) doesn’t really warrent the price IMHO. My first “next gen” system will prob be a Wii but only for Metroid Prime 3 Wii Sports and Virtual Console. If I owned a HDTV I would buy a PS3 in a second hate me if you want but a Blue Ray player for 600 bucks isn’t bad and the hardware really is much better then a xb. Also MSG4 is going to be amazing just picture on a 50 inch plasma omg.

    I paid $200 for my GCN 100 for my PS2 and 180 for my xbox. NO rush to go next gen for me….

  9. Jeff says:

    I paid $200 for my Wii, and it was worth it for nothing more than Zelda.

  10. vanlandw says:

    Above just the price of the system all the damn hidden costs.

    PS3 alone is $600 dollars Game $60 and god knows what else….

    Wii $250 to have fun you need at least 1 or 2 controllers. To play four player tennis you will have to spend 430 dollars.

    Xbox 360 $400 dollars then $50 bucks to play online for the year and all the other shit Microsoft nickel and dimes you.

    Not owning a HDTV or a nice sound system I don’t feel a pressure to own a 360 or a PS3.

    The Wii i think would be totally playable on a regular tube tv……

  11. Jeff says:

    Not all games require the remote and the ‘chuck.

    To play 4 on Wii Tennis you would need:

    Console: 249.99
    Remotes: 3 x 39.99
    ——————
    Total: 369.96

    Also, don’t forget to mention that for some reason Xbox and PS3 games are $10 more expensive than Wii games.

  12. vanbergs says:

    I wouldn’t say the hardware in the PS3 is THAT much better than the 360, especially when it comes to graphical processing. The engine inside the PS3 — the famed “Cell” processor — is amazing for strict processing and multi-tasking. Simple fact is though, developers have no idea how to tap into it right now. The 360′s graphics potential almost surpasses the PS3′s…if it just had the raw horsepower to deal with other calculations. If you look at games produced on both platforms, the 360 has looked better 80-90% of the time, simply because of how difficult it is to program for the PS3.

    The blu ray player on the ps3 is “par” at best. Its drive speed is incredibly slow, which will drastically increase load times. Don’t get me wrong, it’s an incredible piece of hardware, but there’s just as much hype in that black rounded system as there is impressive components.

  13. vanlandw says:

    600 dollars for a Blu Ray player that plays videogames at this point is better then $1000 for one that doesn’t ;-)

    you are right though much like the ps2′s ability to play dvd’s I’m sure the ps3 is not the best blu ray player. It’s an early adopters tool I’m sure in a year the players are going to drop in half in price much like how you can get a DVD player for 30 bucks now.

    The hardware in both is pretty similar you are right. I believe both have 512 of ram. PS3 gives you 60GB of space and that should be more then enough. The 8gb in the XB was enough. When MGS4 comes out I doubt anything is really going to look much better for any system.

    To have a similar xb360 to play HDDVD’s you will spend over $600 dollars is far from a “deal”. If you purchase this so called “elite” system and get the HD-DVD addon you are spending more then a PS3. Now if the Elite system came with a HDDVD drive…now that wouldn’t be so bad.

    PS3 is free to play online as well. All three majors are just nickel and dime’ing everybody it’s crazy all the hidden costs.

  14. Kramer says:

    I really don’t have anything to add other than that the ending to Halo 2 pissed me off to no end.

  15. Adam says:

    What disappoints me is the large number of games pumped out using the same rendering engines. It’s a way to save money (correction: to recoup invested money, if any), but there’s not near enough thought put into it to make it worth the purchase.

    Randomness over.

  16. vanbergs says:

    One thing to note about the ps3′s 512 meg of ram…only half goes to visuals, so it’s not fully-devoted to graphics.

  17. bun says:

    i have absolutely nothing to contribute to this conversation. see you aholes this weekend.

  18. gato says:

    Commenting via my blackberry

  19. vanlandw says:

    http://www.nextgenfight.com/

    If they added the XB360 HD-DVD addon this site would be a good indicator of pricing. They also need to add the Wii but still a good way to price between XB and PS

    thanks for the comments bun and gato :-D

  20. Jeff says:

    WJ, I disagree about adding the HD-DVD addon to the mix. HD-DVD/Bluray are both none essential components. If Nintendo embedded some diamonds into their system, they could charge an extra $400, but it would not make the game any better.

    Would you then say that the other systems were inferior because they did not have embedded diamonds? :wink:

  21. Vo says:

    But, you could pry the diamond out of the nintendo, sell them to a pawn shop and buy more games with the money. There fore, it would be like buying a PS3 or 360 with 3-5 games included.

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